anyone know if these should just turn out fairly easy after some penetrating oil -seem a little rusted but notbad - don't want to over torque and break something...

 

Did you loosen the nut? They can be pretty tight even with the nut loose.

 

yes loosened nuts on both -oneunscrewed easily by hand the other I can barely back out with vice grips - maybe take off whole assembly to see what is going on in there? got to get right sizestar tool I guess..

 

hatch lock pin is not coming out - am going to try to remove the hatch lock pin assembly - seems to be a star tool head on the screws - anyone know what size I need to buy? thanks

 

OK -please disregard above message - screws came out using regular allen wrench. Removed the whole assembly. Wow,that was only way that hatch pin bolt was going to come out. Well the new SS ones help make it keep solidly closed.